{"id":296,"date":"2007-06-30T14:23:06","date_gmt":"2007-06-30T19:23:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fiveforks.com\/ted\/2007\/06\/commas_in_thousands\/"},"modified":"2007-06-30T14:23:06","modified_gmt":"2007-06-30T19:23:06","slug":"commas_in_thousands","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/2007\/06\/commas_in_thousands\/","title":{"rendered":"Commas in Thousands"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>At work I edit a manual of design practices and from time to time people will write with suggested changes. Recently I had a guy who was asking me to add some information. In the e-mail he quoted a sentence from the manual and included the new information. He also edited some numbers I already had in the sentence to add a comma, making 3500 appear as 3,500.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know where I picked it up, but it seems like I learned at some point that you don&#8217;t need the comma in 4-digit numbers, but should include them with 5 digits and above. I looked through the manual and at least I was consistent. I did a search to see what the standard practice is and it was pretty useless. Wikipedia has a big long article about <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Comma_(punctuation)\">commas<\/A> that says one standard is to use spaces (actually half spaces) between thousands, like this: 15 000 and another is to use commas like this: 15,000. Of course they didn&#8217;t use a 4-digit number. Naturally they had to add the crazy thing where commas are used as decimal points and periods are used for thousands in some countries (which I learned about when I got my very first HP calculator that could be set to display numbers either way). In a <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)\/Archive_31\">discussion<\/A> on Wikipedia, one contributor flat out refuses to ever use commas in numbers because it is WRONG (his caps) regardless of what the Wikipedia style manual tells him to do. That&#8217;s insubordination.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nAnother article on Wikipedia about <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Decimal_separator\">decimal separators<\/A> rehashes and adds to some of the comma article. It goes as far as listing countries as dot countries, comma countries, and momayyez countries. I thought it was pretty amusing that the world was being divided up by the decimal separator they use and that the Middle East didn&#8217;t follow either convention but came up with something completely different that I&#8217;ve never even heard of. However, the article does at least mention that some publishing house manuals of style do not include a comma in numbers 1000 to 9999.<\/p>\n<p>That brings up one of the flaws of Wikipedia: tons of information but not always an answer. And sometimes way more information and opinion than you really want or need.<\/p>\n<p>Although the Wikipedia article about the <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Momayyez\">momayyez<\/A> says it is a forward slash, in the article it appears as a comma. Searching for images of a momayyez on Google results in pictures of a guy with a mustache and a woman in a cubicle. I played around with the unicode character in Word and came up with this image that shows that the momayyez looks a little different and does not descend like a comma. I will reiterate that since the momayyez is a decimal separator, the first image represents 40 to three decimal places and the next one 40,000.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"momayyez.gif\" src=\"\/ted\/files\/mt\/archive\/2007\/momayyez.gif\" width=\"311\" height=\"210\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At work I edit a manual of design practices and from time to time people will write with suggested changes. Recently I had a guy who was asking me to add some information. In the e-mail he quoted a sentence from the manual and included the new information. He also edited some numbers I already &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/2007\/06\/commas_in_thousands\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Commas in Thousands&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":15,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-296","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/296","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/15"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=296"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/296\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=296"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=296"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.fiveforks.com\/ted\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=296"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}